My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly done!!

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My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly done!!

Ok, ignore the spray job, and im pretty embarrassed by my dodgy deck resin swirl and acrylic pinlines ( no pic yet coz it needs a hotcoat ), but here's a few pics of it. I just routed the holes for the proboxes, and im just waiting on my resin, then i can put them in. I routed the jig on the first one, but the second one went pretty well. Im hanging to ride it, but i think its above my skill level, so i may end up putting in a centre plug for a trailing fin.

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As you can see im a pretty ordinary board builder, but i like riding my own.

You can see my border collie in the background. She's on doggy ADD medicine coz of her obsessive barking. Doesnt make one iota of difference, but hey, my vet drives a nice big 4x4, so he has to pay for it somehow!!

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Re: [beerfan] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly done!!

" yeehaaa !!!! "

.... well, it seems like  just a few minutes ago we were talking ....  it didn't take you too long eh , Mark ??

   get your dog running up and down the play centre thingy for a week ,  that should tire it out ?? [  or , make him a mini dog board to surf on ??...]

  those fins look cool ...are the bases basically the same depth as fcs's ?

   cheers mate

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Yeah mate, fcs fins fit them.

Cheers

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Re: [beerfan] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly done!!

beerfan wrote:

Ok, ignore the spray job, and im pretty embarrassed by my dodgy deck resin swirl and acrylic pinlines ( no pic yet coz it needs a hotcoat ), but here's a few pics of it. I just routed the holes for the proboxes, and im just waiting on my resin, then i can put them in. I routed the jig on the first one, but the second one went pretty well. Im hanging to ride it, but i think its above my skill level, so i may end up putting in a centre plug for a trailing fin.

twinny-fins-1.jpg

twinny-fins-side.jpg

twinny-fins-outline.jpg

twinny-fins-side-2.jpg

As you can see im a pretty ordinary board builder, but i like riding my own.

You can see my border collie in the background. She's on doggy ADD medicine coz of her obsessive barking. Doesnt make one iota of difference, but hey, my vet drives a nice big 4x4, so he has to pay for it somehow!!

Alright!!!! Beerfan nice color combo. Keep up the great work my friend. Mahalo, Larry

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Re: [Probox-Larry] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly ...

I don't know if you've named it yet, but the "Tron Twinny" comes to mind.

looks SWEET!

the graphics are awesome!

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Re: [beerfan] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly done!!

Thanks guys, the spray looked better in my head than on the foam!!. Its a bit 80's. I thought i'd cover it with blue tint and pigment, but it came out lighter than i thought. Despite its ugliness, im keen to resin those boxes in, whack on a hotcoat n ride the thing!!

Why "Tron Twinny" ??

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Re: [Probox-Larry] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly ...

Thanks mate, im definately a convert to probox. You almost can't stuff up the install, and i really like how the box is located on the bottom of the board by the jig, which means when the resin goes in, the box is perfectly aligned, no stuffing around with tape etc, and you know the fins going in the right spot.

I wont be making anymore boards for a while, but when i do ( and i will!! ) i'll be using proboxes for sure.

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Please tell me that Tron made it to Australia...

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you wanna talk about 80's...this is the peak of it.

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Re: [beerfan] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly done!!

Cant see the pics, d;oh!!!!

Oh ok now i can, that's classic, and suits the spray job perfect!!!. In tears at the moment hahahahaha

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Re: [beerfan] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly done!!

Hey Beerfan,

Looks like a fun board.  Don't forget to take the jigs off before you surf it.  Kidding.

I love those nutty dogs.  Got to run the shit out of them and that makes them almost tolerable.  No meds. Run, run, run. Take him with you whenever you can and you'll not have a better companion.  Our border collie went through about 400 dollars in seat belts.  I don't know how many zippers she has destroyed.  Loves to eat zippers for some reason. Ours was the fastest dog on the beach when she was in her prime. Mike

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Re: [beerfan] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly done!!

I like the paint job on the bottom. The fin placement looks perfect to make it in to a quad !!!!

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Re: [beerfan] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly done!!

Rooster i can run her ragged for an hour non stop. Get home, she's buggered..... for about 5 minutes hahah. It's only diesel trains ( we live behind a train line ), helicopters ( there's an airport less than a kilometre away ) and whipper snippers ( our elderly neighbours mow their lawn obsessively ), so its a bit of bad luck as well. She is an excellent dog, and when we did obedience, she ( and the male ) loved it and excelled without trying. They are smart dogs that's for sure.

We have had the bark busting people out a few times, but it takes a lot of time, and when you have 2 young kids, and one in the oven, its hard to find the time. Really she isn;t that bad, we just want her to be better. Although, no matter how bad she gets, we could never get rid of her. I must say, the older she gets, the more settled she is.

Back to the twinny!!, im hoping to surf it by the end of april. I'll update with a ride report.

Cheers guys

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Re: [beerfan] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly done!!

hi mark !!

  be watching your mail box this friday ....

  cheers mate 

  ben 

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Re: [chipfins61] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly ...

Hey ben has your stuff arrived yet??. Can't wait!!!!!

I got the resin yesterday, but im working the nxt 2 days. Friday im gunna glass em in, woo hoo!!.

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Re: [beerfan] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly done!!

hi mark

no not yet

  but that's okay , because nods won't be able to work on the board till mid to late april

  which is fine , because

a] it gives me the chance to save money for the work

b] it gives me the chance to send fins to the people i owe them to [stay tuned , folks !!]

c] it gives the storms , swell, and banks TIME to organise themselves [hopefully in time for my brother's visit]

d] it gives time to [possibly] finish off my remaining fins ....

  cheers

   ben

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Re: [beerfan] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly done!!

So, i just glassed in the proboxes. So easy, i didn't even need the stickers. Too good larry, great system.

Bit blurry but, here are a few pics of after i pulled the jigs off.

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Re: [beerfan] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly done!!

Cool. Are you planning on supercharging it ? Methinks you will.

Just a quiet word of advice from one newbie to another - when you grind those fin boxes back be super mindful of your grinder speed and avoid excess heat buildup.I'm told it can affect the bond between the resin and the box.

That board's got 'woohoo' written all over it .

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Re: [NuclearFishin] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly ...

Concerning grinding the boxes down:

To avoid exessive heat buildup I use a Med PowerPad and "pulse" the trigger, release it and push straight down on the box allowing the friction to slow the pad to a stop. I do this a few times with 60 grit per box and switch to 100 or 120 when I get close to the glass. Totally works to reduce heat.

Also spending a little time on each box them moving to the next gives the previous boxes time to cool.

Don't get all aggressive and try grinding the box at a high, continuous speed. The excessive friction will start to melt the plastic, clog up your sandpaper, and ultimately take longer than repetitive pulsing of the sander.

This pic shows the sander has stopped rotating and I'm about to pick it up off the ProBox and pulse it again...

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Re: [beerfan] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly done!!

Beerfan,

Those Aipa Twins are gonna make that board sing! Great choice.

How far from the tail did you place them?

Thanks,

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Nuclearfission, i dont know yet, but possibly. I got a feeling i might struggle to handle the "looseness" of it, so i may have to put a trailing fin box in, but i'll try it as it is first.

Greenlight, NuclearF, thanks for the tips, im never in a hurry, so i'll take it slowly so i dont affect the bond.

The back of the fin is 7 1/2'' from the tail. I can move them forward though.

Getting excited!!. i wanted something with good float, and grovelling capacity ( it's 2 7/8" ), but more manouverable ( free? ) than my keel fish. I also put the widepoint just behind centre, and went with a 15''nose, and 16'' pulled in tail.

Hanging to try this sucker!!!!!!!

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NuclearFishin wrote:

That board's got 'woohoo' written all over it .

Pretty much sums it up....looks like a very sweet board Beerfan. Those fins look nice too - did you pick them up locally??

BTW, if you've got a VHS player and still lookin for some classic Occy footage - let me know. I've got a spare copy of the Occumentary which I can pass on.

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Thanks mate, but i spent my last money on beer related stuff. I have enough steriliser ( agricultural grade!! ) to last me a lifetime though haha.

Here's some progress pics after sanding them down. Just a hotcoat and a leash plug, and its seaworthy ( don't sue me nathan! ). Just wish we had something to surf, it was embarrassing surfing this morning, and im a first class grovellor. You know its bad when you spin the board around to get a wave and the tail of the board bottoms out on the sand hahaha

Im not the greatest sander as you can see but its smooth enough to get me in the water, and i dont wanna risk a sand through.

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In the last pic, you can see where the router got away from me!!.

Cheers, hope to have a ride report by next weekend. I will also post pics of the deck. You are going to laugh so hard at my bodgy swirl, and acrylic paint pinlines. They're terrible haha. Lucky i surf mostly early morning midweek!!

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Re: [beerfan] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly ...

Ok, so i was able to look after the kids while in the shed putting down the hotcoat. I made sure they were occupied ( i gave them an old blank to play with, what a hit!!! ).

Pretty ugly and i wish i didn;t do the pinlines, they are wonky, and make it look ordinary, but i'll learn next time.

Needs a leash plug, but its basically done. Woo hoo!!.

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thanks for the shots mark

  i eagerly await a test ride report

  cheers

   ben 

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Re: [chipfins61] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly ...

Ok, first ride report!.

Took it out this morning in small dumping waves. Not great waves but i was gunna paddle out no matter how bad!. Feels a little bit stiff actually, i thought it would be so loose it would be hard to control, but it felt stiff to turn. Im pretty sure that's my feet in the wrong spot, and also me being a front foot surfer. However, i also thought it might be the lack of a hard edge in the tail. I didn't do one, and the rail is tucked, so im guessing maybe the rails weren't releasing as good as they could be???. Anyway, i got home, and straight away taped up, and now have an edge there ( still gotta sand it though, d'oh!! ).

Still, i had a few fun ones, and did manage to spear it up into the lip once or twice on closeouts. Totally different to my twin keel haha. Its gunna take some getting used to. Im hoping it'll teach me to stop being so front foot heavy. Either that or it'll end up pissing me off haha.

I might move the fins forward in the box as far as they can go woo hoo, love probox!

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beerfan wrote:

Ok, first ride report!.

Took it out this morning in small dumping waves. Not great waves but i was gunna paddle out no matter how bad!. Feels a little bit stiff actually, i thought it would be so loose it would be hard to control, but it felt stiff to turn. Im pretty sure that's my feet in the wrong spot, and also me being a front foot surfer. However, i also thought it might be the lack of a hard edge in the tail. I didn't do one, and the rail is tucked, so im guessing maybe the rails weren't releasing as good as they could be???. Anyway, i got home, and straight away taped up, and now have an edge there ( still gotta sand it though, d'oh!! ).

Still, i had a few fun ones, and did manage to spear it up into the lip once or twice on closeouts. Totally different to my twin keel haha. Its gunna take some getting used to. Im hoping it'll teach me to stop being so front foot heavy. Either that or it'll end up pissing me off haha.

I might move the fins forward in the box as far as they can go woo hoo, love probox!

Cheers

Hi Beerfan, I noticed your canted at 4 Degree, if your board feels stiff the fins usally are to vertical. Change out the red 4 Degree inserts to 6 degree Black and let us know how it feels.

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Hi Beerfan,

Good to hear a first ride report... you were a little more discerning than I was on the first ride report of my first board - I just remember every wave beening absolutely awsome and my face hurting from smiling after surfing it for about 2 hours.  Now when I ride that first board, it feels like a bit of a dog compared to others I have ridden and shaped since, but to this day I still remember the stoke of that first wave and the first session.

Most of the stoke is in knowing that you shaped it with your own hands and that it works!!!

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Re: [thefishexp] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly ...

Im definately stoked about it, just making a small modification!!. The waves were pretty ordinary,and hey, it's the first surf on a new board so i need to give it a few surfs to get used to it. The tail rail is fairly round though, so im keen to put an edge there anyway, nearly done sanding!

Larry, i'll have to try to get some off foamhead if i can get some cash together.

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Re: [beerfan] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly ...

Hey Beerfan..........

If I've got any spare sets of inserts, I'll drop them in the mail for you old mate .....

I'm going to Indo soon .... so if I only have one set there coming with me .....:-( sorry dude !!!

I'll let you know either way after I get home tonight

W

PS I think I still got your address, but PM me just in case

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beerfan wrote:

Im definately stoked about it, just making a small modification!!. The waves were pretty ordinary,and hey, it's the first surf on a new board so i need to give it a few surfs to get used to it. The tail rail is fairly round though, so im keen to put an edge there anyway, nearly done sanding!

Larry, i'll have to try to get some off foamhead if i can get some cash together.

Hi Beerfan, PM me your addressand I will drop some in the mail for you.

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foamhead wrote:

Hey Beerfan..........

If I've got any spare sets of inserts, I'll drop them in the mail for you old mate .....

I'm going to Indo soon .... so if I only have one set there coming with me .....:-( sorry dude !!!

I'll let you know either way after I get home tonight

W

Hi foamhead, Have a SAFE trip in INDO. Mahalo,Larry

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PS I think I still got your address, but PM me just in case

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Re: [Probox-Larry] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly ...

G'day Larry .....

Thanx for well wishes ........

Not going for a couple of weeks, have an Indo play board I need to install Probox's into first

Will post some pic's when done..... twinzer special with your canards and Aipa Twins

Talk soon

W

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Re: [foamhead] My ugly, noobie probox twinny is nearly ...

Bit of an update. I surfed the board a few weeks ago, chest high, and high tide so not really great, but i got a few long rides. It really feels like its hard to initiate the turn, but when i do, it whips around quite well. I still think the main problem is i need to surf it more on the backfoot, and im no good at that at all.

BUT, i was thinking, would some vee help this board?? Obvioulsy im not going to strip and reshape, but if it had some vee, would that give it a more "free" feeling rail to rail??

I find it odd, because my keel fish feels very free rail to rail, and it is also dead flat on the bottom, although it is supercharged. Myabe i could supercharge it also?? Herb?

Definatley gunna get some more canted inserts too

Nudge Nudge foamhead hahahaha!!/

Cheers

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