Pumpkin Seed for fast, steep head high waves? Switch to Epoxy?

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Pumpkin Seed for fast, steep head high waves? Switch to Epoxy?

Preface, I have read a bunch but honestly some of it is pretty technical, so simpler the better please. I'm intermediate and have only owned and ridden 4 different boards.

I am looking for a board for head high steep and fast waves. I surf the north of Chile and the waves are heavy so I also need something extra durable (repairs are slow and expensive here). I need to get into waves faster and I'm always trying to beat sections. Also, now learning to pull into tubes. I'm an intermediate surfer 5'8", 155 lbs. (I need a board that flies!) 

I currently ride a 6'2" x 18.50 2 2.38, Klimax Gabriel Villaran model. It's a little skinny for me. I'll be back in NY in December so I want to buy a board to bring back. I am considering going Epoxy (firewire, santa cruz).

Any suggestions for a board? 

Would the Pumpkin be a good fit or is it more for smaller waves? I'm considering this board because of durability, 5 fin option, width and volume for getting into waves faster. However, not sure how it would hold in bigger waves up to double over head sometimes. I don't have money for a step up board.

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Re: [mpconway86] Pumpkin Seed for fast, steep head high ...

Are there many shapers in your local area? Maybe you should pick up a hand full of blanks for the same price and begin your foray into building?  

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Re: [marsh] Pumpkin Seed for fast, steep head high ...

There is one, he's also the guy that takes 2 weeks to repair your fin plug. I personally don't see a future in shaping, plus I'd like something within the next few months. 

But let's talk price for a minute, SC Pumpkin (Epoxy) $654 with fins and board bag. Local NYC board, MOD (PU) by Salt $500. Repairs here average $30 if you want it fast. So with 5 repairs which I'd probably in 2 years I'm already paying for the SC Pumking assuming the Epoxy doesn't damage in situations that the PU would have.

Input is appreciated, one of the points of this post is to decide if making the switch to Epoxy is worth it, considering the unforgiving northern waves of Chile. The other point is to see if specifically anyone has input on the Pumpkin in head+ waves. 

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Re: [mpconway86] Pumpkin Seed for fast, steep head high ...

Wow slow down!! Price on a pumpkin seed?? Organic or GM? This threads destined for the swaylocks surfshop.  Welcome to the forum, mind your spelling and grammar, surfboard builders hate when you funk that stuff up :) 

Seriously though you should think about fixing your own boards, you'll learn a lot about the process and appreciate what it takes to do a good job.

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Re: [mpconway86] Pumpkin Seed for fast, steep head high ...

I agree on learning to do your own ding repair.  Its not all that complex, and there are lots of skilled people here that would be happy to share some insight into the process.

As far as the board review - you might try posting your question over at http://forum.surfermag.com/forum/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB4 if you don't get a response here.

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Re: [mpconway86] Pumpkin Seed for fast, steep head high ...

maybe NJsurfer could hook you up he's in New jersy

you should PM him

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Re: [mpconway86] Pumpkin Seed for fast, steep head high ...

If you are going to NYC, look up some of the fine members of Swaylocks that area--I know there are at least a few that build amazing boards--why get a popout when you can get a custom? And at least some of these guys use epoxy.

Off the top of my head I'm thinking of swaylockians Tom Mahady (tjrm63) (http://www.mahadysurfboards.com/), Rick Malwitz (can't remember his user name) (http://www.malwitzsurfboards.com/), Kevin Cunningham (kevincc) (http://spiraresurfboards.com/). I know there are others out there that I'm forgetting--maybe someone else can chime in with others.

But for $600 bucks, do yourself a favor and get a custom board!

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Re: [mpconway86] Pumpkin Seed for fast, steep head high ...

Head high to double overhead, steep and fast for a novice/intermediate surfer isn't what the Pumpkin Seed was designed for.   You need a board with an agressive rocker for those kinds of waves.   If you're not getting in with your 6-2 then you may need more length and a little more width

You need at least two boards to cover the ranges you're talking about.   The fewer compromises you make the better each board will work for you.   

And you should definitely learn to do your own repairs.  If nothing else it will teach you to take better care of your boards and avoid more of those repairs from the outset.   

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Re: [mpconway86] Pumpkin Seed for fast, steep head high ...

pumpkin seed looks great for head high steep hollow waves. similar to what i ride to doh. epoxy/eps way more durable but do your own repairs. nose rocker can be as low as you like even in barrels. . pumpkin seed looks shit hot for the tube man..

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Re: [paulcannon] Pumpkin Seed for fast, steep head high ...

paulcannon wrote:

nice tube, looks good for a few seconds at least, water looks a greeny shade of cold !

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Re: [mpconway86] Pumpkin Seed for fast, steep head high ...

anybody see that footage of the Craig Anderson at Skeleton point on that tiny Hayden seed looking board? Saw some video on the intergiant somewhere, and he was all over it - in a good way.

Those little curvy, flat rockered boards are fun as hell, and with that rounded pin, and quad option, as super solid in hollow waves. I've made a few short and wide eggs as travel boards, and usually that's all I'd ride for the trip. So versatile makes me wonder why I bother with all the other junk I make...

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