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you gy saw the new surftech

Surftech ULTRAFLEX boards' utilize a biaxial "Salmon Skin" fiberglass, which is a combination of two uni-directional layers of glass stitched together on a 45˚ angle forming the biaxial grid that makes up our Salmin Skin (those are the lines you see on the deck and rails). Biaxial cloth allows for a greater range of flexibility, while distributing stress loads at 45˚ angles to help prevent buckling or breaking. This means that 100% of the fiberglass is working and more fiberglass can be used while still keeping a soft neutral flex pattern and maximizing durability.

look at the video...   http://www.realwatersports.com/surfing/index.cfm?page=newsitem&id=1474

look superior with the new fiberglass they use and the fuse cell eps...

all glass by hand...


what you guys think?

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I believe this weave is indeed better than the traditional 90° parallel and perpendicular to stringer.

this uses the fibres more optimal and reduces tortional flex.

I would use a weave like that if I could find it here.

This is just my idea, don't take it for truth ;)

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No vac bag? no high density skins?

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marsh wrote:


No vac bag? no high density skins?



 


Next thing you know they will put out an ad stating that they believe hand shaped boards made in the U.S. out of poly are superior and it was their research that discovered that fact.    Yee Har...:)

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Just how much do you think ST, FW, CI and others lurk here.  Amazing to me how much of the corporate high tech comes from good ole Sways.

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that made me laugh.  I think back to your parabolic stringer and how the industry jumped on that.  Rusty is about to offer bamboo   (he won't even PM me, as if...),  the impact glass thing, epoxy in general.  I am waiting for someone to offer blue tempra stripes on their board and call it BS.

I've pretty much invented or innovated nothing, but I get a charge out of seeing what sells.

I actually like the Ultraflex thing.  If I had a butt load of money, I'd go buy one.

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gregloehr wrote:


Just how much do you think ST, FW, CI and others lurk here.  Amazing to me how much of the corporate high tech comes from good ole Sways.



 


Hey Greg...I hear IBENEW surf company has come out with an ad on some ultra new tech that is going to change the surfing world. Fully backed by IBENEWII clothing line.   It's surfboards are shaped out of polyurethane foam blanks and glassed with fiberglass.  Even better...they have invented fins that can be changed out with fin boxes for easy shipping to the shops they sell them to and for travel.  


 


To top things off...they have the endorsement of one of the pro surfers in the top three who swears his results are because of this newly rediscovered tech.   I hear they have suggested to and the newly formed IPS which is now taking the place of the former ASP has accepted a new contest format with five man heats and a pro class trials contest for the locals who wish to qualify.  


 


A side note: Have you seen that new surf movie touring theaters?  It's called " Ride Free " and chronicles the lives of some of the more core and properly sponsored leaders in the surfing world.   Amazing how those guys are just kicking down the door.   


 


I can't believe it's here, it's now and it's happening.  Surfers only know the feeling and it has to be the establishment of the neo youth.

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gregloehr wrote:

Just how much do you think ST, FW, CI and others lurk here.  Amazing to me how much of the corporate high tech comes from good ole Sways.

Well in the absence of their own creativity...I guess it would figure they would seek out other's.

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Available from Graphite Master in LA.

760-917-1107

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I really think you could build that board with the glass from GM and Ken's (Segway)  fused cell EPS foam.

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It's what i use on my last board. Xglass, no crimp fiber like all stitched fiber used now in boat building. Better in all way but bad (strange) looking. Fiber flex use this glass now slx and lot of windsurf builder too.

Sorry for my frenglish

6'6 x 20 1/2 x 2 3/4, 3,2kg nice flex.

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I found this stuff awhile ago.  No more expensive than S glass.  Better or worse?

Biaxial 0600 - 6oz w/no mat +45 x -45 x 50in

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snowboard companies have gone to biaxial and triaxial glass for years now to get the desired flex patterns along with different core materials...nothing new

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Multiaxial stitch fiber are use in all industries, it's cheaper and stronger than woven fiber, easy to lam big quantities of fiber in one shot and to optimise fiber orientation.

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Mat, you tinted the board or painted it like a windsurfboard?

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Reinforcement orientation has been a key composite design element for years. 

Serious question:  Is this really that new in surf board construction?

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Used biaxial at least 25 years ago.  Never broke one .... ever.  Not even with 1# EPS core.  For lightweight longboards, guns and some other boards that get a real beating, the stuff is extremely functional.

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Yes louis, this one is resin tint. I don't want to see stitche of Xglass so i tint white all layers.

Nothing new with stitched fiber. I saw this fiber 15 years later for boat building. Greg speak of this here long time ago. For "industrial" surfboards watercooled use it, slx technologie, fiber flex and now surtech...

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well according to the resident myth-buster these surftechs should buckle.

http://www2.swaylocks.com/forums/prevent-buckling-without-changing-flex

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surfer dave, extract from your link

"A much easier way to make a board that carries more load, is to add more
glass.  Use three layers of S-cloth.  The top and bottom should be
normal direction cloth, but the middle cloth should be +45/-45."

This is what they do (except Sglass)

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surfer dave, extract from your link

"A much easier way to make a board that carries more load, is to add more
glass.  Use three layers of S-cloth.  The top and bottom should be
normal direction cloth, but the middle cloth should be +45/-45."

This is what they do (except Sglass)

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Well, the opener mentions two unidirectionals, not two flat weaves sandwiching a biax like your selected extract but whatever, the thread from Benjamin actually initially dismissed biax but hey, I agree with surftech, I am on the Biax side of this argument, just my intent was to point out this has been dealt with and pretty much dismissed by the peanut gallery. Now the only caveat with biax is you need to vacume it on because it doesn't lap worth sh&*t so I would advise a table impregnation like Nelson Factory do and then vacume it on with peelply and a bleeder mat to get the rails. in the end, you should be finalizing the board with fairing compound and paint to protect from UV like the windsurfers are done imho..

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Second the vac table/peel ply approach.  In addition to being stiff biax'll hold more than 2X the resin.

As an alternative, vac it under a clear plastic with slow resin loaded up in the middle.

Pull the vac down gently and work it out to the edges through the plastic being careful not to roll or catch the plastic.

We cover the work with 6 mil poly slip sheets under 10 mil awning vinyl vac bag in the shops.

Buff the burrs off of the spreader and wax the vinyl so it moves smoothly over the work.

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Brian_CaB wrote:

Second the vac table/peel ply approach.  In addition to being stiff biax'll hold more than 2X the resin.

As an alternative, vac it under a clear plastic with slow resin loaded up in the middle.

Pull the vac down gently and work it out to the edges through the plastic being careful not to roll or catch the plastic.

We cover the work with 6 mil poly slip sheets under 10 mil awning vinyl vac bag in the shops.

Buff the burrs off of the spreader and wax the vinyl so it moves smoothly over the work.

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Now that Ben has tested biax he pretty much changed his tune.  Actual testing does that.  The biax I used didn't require bagging. Just used a lighter foam 1.5#, so that I could put a 2 oz over the biax bottom and a 4 over on the deck. Wasn't too bad to work with but the cosmetics are not what I would call showroom.  I'd use it in a gun for sure but I prefer T-Flex now.

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On surftech website there is a picture that explain the process, you can see that biaxial is between two layers of woven glass. On picture i post above, the board is not paint, no vacum no peel ply no problem with laps.

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T-Flex.....or T REX?

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T-Flex ... T-Rex ... same thing, both have huge Penuiuiuses.

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Saw some ultraflex boards yesterday, they looked good, definitely something swaylockians could build.  Much like the first WMD compsands with HD rails.

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I don't know....Dut it looks like a coil to me....Time to shut down ol swaylocks

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