Still feeling the keels...

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Re: [Nico_SB] Still feeling the keels...

6'0" Larmo twin keel. Hand made keels by Larmo as well.

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My first fish, circa 2001ish... shaped by a buddy. He laid up all of the glass panels, cut out and foiled those keels himself. You can't tell in the photo but they had a neat smoke-colored tint to them. I rode the board with those fins for a few years. They've got a pretty wide base and they're set pretty far back, parallel to the stringer. It gave the board a lot of drive but it tended to feel a little stiff. I think it allowed me to push the board into conditions it probably wasn't meant for (think well-overhead point surf). At some point, maybe a year ago or so, the same buddy knocked those fins off, incorporated them into some kind of art project and glassed on some of the wood Geppys from True Ames in their place. We moved the keels up slightly and gave them a slight toe-in. I haven't had the chance to ride it much since then (because it's been on long-term loan to the shaper) but the general consensus is that the new fin set-up works really well!

All the same, I thought this shot that I took of the old keels when I was in Australia back '03 came out bitchin'.

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[=Black][=1][ 1]5'8 Christenson here in the UK.[/]


6'2 Christenson

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Re: [Seas-of-cheese] Still feeling the keels...

Mason Surfboards 6'4

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Christenson 6'6

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Re: [Seas-of-cheese] Still feeling the keels...

N B,
Pavel sure has the Mojo. They all look perfect to my eye. No funk.

Nico, those are 'wicked' keels. Keep it coming, boys n girls! Mike

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Re: [rooster] Still feeling the keels...

Now we're talking. Beautiiful photos everyone. I love the shaping b/w shot. Here's a link to some Dan Malloy keel riding. Really fantastic turns, especially that one, you know the one.

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Re: [Seas-of-cheese] Still feeling the keels...

hey tim,

welcome! good to have more uk folks on this thread....

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Re: [Nico_SB] Still feeling the keels...

Two custom pavels!? what are the dims on that keel?

similar to the superbank model?

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Re: [free_and_easy] Still feeling the keels...

Yep, two customs. Rich is a good friend of one of my co-workers who grew up surfing with him, so we went down to SD to see him a year ago or so and spend a weekend with him getting some boards shaped.

I actually don't know much about the dimensions of the boards other than that the quad is a 5'8" and the twin keel is a 5'9". I simply told Rich the general length of board I wanted and the types of waves I mostly surf and let him do the rest. We got to watch him shape all of them but I don't recall him spending much time taking measurements as he went along. He just laid down the templates and ran with it. I figure he's done enough to know when he's got it right.

The boards work great although I'm anxious to try some different fins on the quad and see how it affects the ride.

As far as comparing my Pavel twin keel to the superbank, i think the superbank tends to have a little more of a full nose (maybe wide point a little farther forward?) and you tend to ride it a little bit shorter. Although I don't have any personal experience with the superbank design other that fondling a couple of shaped blanks in Rich's shaping shop. They look like fun.

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I've posted this before, but here it is again:

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funny how you can tell who's put the time in to really figure it all out too....

always good to see some really ride a fish correctly.

besides me of course, lol

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Always feelin the keels...

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Re: [emil] Still feeling the keels...

Hi Guys

Don't get much time these days to get some boards done. But here's my ride from the last batch. Stringerless with gehart big fins, a tad over 3" thick.









and one I did for a friend





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Re: [Joe] Still feeling the keels...

I.
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Re: [surferguy80] Still feeling the keels...

I love the foil on yours surferguy80. Did you build it?

What about some Brom's? There used to be some in the photo archives back when he posted here. I always thought his were the best of the best. Including the SD guys. Mike

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Here is my daily rider of late. It's a late 70s Skydog (Oceanside), 6' 4" with 1/2" redwood stringer, heavy volan glass job. If anybody knows anything more about skydog surfboards I'd appreciate the stories. This thing is heavier than a modern fish and buoyant as a cork, but it's a lot of fun in mushy Bolsa Chica surf.






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That is a COOL board!

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Re: [rooster] Still feeling the keels...

thanks rooster!
that one is about two months old now, i fell in love with it pretty hard but was never intended for me to keep so im biding my time until i can do one for myself again!

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Re: [Nico_SB] Still feeling the keels...

Absolutely inlove with my 5'8 mabile keel at the moment. Really flies:


Also have this locally shaped 5'10 copied from an original 72 jim blears shape. Great fun down the line but a mare to duckdive and not as loose off the top as the mabile:



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Re: [Jory] Still feeling the keels...

Jory,
I'm in agreement on the Mabile fish- my Magic Carpet is the best traditional (or semi traditional I guess) fish I've ridden. I'm late to the thread but here's a couple of beauties from Andrew Kidman:

the blue one is a 7'6" gunfish. I'll have Mackie's next week too!

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Re: [consafos] Still feeling the keels...

I like the artwork on the orange kidman. Please post some of those Mackies. I got to fondle them at festivus, and they're quite interesting...

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Re: [rooster] Still feeling the keels...

Quote:
5-9 epoxy fish with halcyon keels. Hope it works.




well...

thanks HEAPS for posting these shots , mike !

i can't wait to see MORE [hint hint !]

cheers mate !

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Re: [chipfins61] Still feeling the keels...

Chipfish- I like the outline on the fins...and the background sin;t bad either:)

Here's a random Brom found on the internets. Not mine but shadows of the Mirandon Twin Pin? One of my favorite logos ever.


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Sweet, Brom. I might have to try one with the triple stringer and the rail stringers providing some protection to the tips. Mike

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Re: [rooster] Still feeling the keels...

...do "mini keels " [probox tabbed] count ?

home made ...


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Re: [Beerfan] Still feeling the keels...

Hi Beerfan. Sorry it took me so long to measure those fins. We've had a bit of illness around our house. Base is 5 1/2" Height is 5 1/2, leading endge is 10 inches. Trailing edge is 5 3/4 or thereabouts. I hope that helps you.

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Re: [apsmith] Still feeling the keels...

Thanks mate. I just got some Probox aipa twin fins, can't wait to try them out.

Surfing for me is mostly two turns and a wipeout

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Just got a new 5'5" Rainbow Pavel superbank keel...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/29626008@N04/

It completely caught me off guard, this thing rips!... i was thinking when i ordered this it was gonna be relaxed small wave fishin... this things burns down the line with such a smooth, connected, powerful acute trim and arcs cutbacks from way way down on the shoulder with speed and drive for days thru the cutback... swoops, compresses and extends with so much drive and finesse... surfs so under my feet and so solid i dont think my speedialer will be seeing much water.... cant wait to get it into some good surf, and never thought id be saying that about a traditional fish!... cheers to keel riders!

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Are all those boards yours ? Nice.


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Re: [NuclearFishin] Still feeling the keels...

Thanks for posting pics!

All mine execpt the red quad is a bud's 5'8" christenson

the keel with blue fins is my little brother's at a flyweight's 5'2" x 19 3/4

More pics of the pavel in my link...feel free post more of those

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Very cool artwork on the bottom, too! Wow. Mike

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Sweet little ride.
pm me if you're interested and I'll show you how to post pics.If I can do it anyone can. : )

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Re: [free_and_easy] Still feeling the keels...

A 6'4 Pavel (Rainbow) twin keel fish is the best fish I've ever ridden. Full double concave, glassed light as a feather. The thing rips, plain and simple, by any standard. This is not your daddy's fish, for sure.

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New Mackies, sidecut flexies. The waxed one is Mick's prototype and looks like being my demo board (STOKED!) It came with some experimental fins in to the bargain. The other one is new, clean as a whistle and looks insane. It has the glassed on keels which are ultra foiled and feel really flexy. I know I'm biased but Mick is doing some of the most exciting new surfboard design out there and I for one cannot wait for some sort of swell to come to lovely SoCal!

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Re: [consafos] Still feeling the keels...

Hi consafos,
Very very creative. Have you ridden the flexy with the blade fins? If so, what did you notice? Mike

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Re: [rooster] Still feeling the keels...

Just glassed these on Sunday - still have to sand and polish.

Will post board pics later

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Re: [Mikaale] Still feeling the keels...

I'm interested in hearing about the cool-looking blade fins too. Looks like they'd be loose, but maybe not the drivey-est.

This was one of my earliest boards, I think my 10th overall. It was also one of my first done with the vacuum-bag, and the first bagged veneer that I thought I really nailed.

This is a perfect example of a "blind squirrel finding a nut". I pulled the Lis design straight out of "surfboard design and construction" and scaled it up to 6'2" and 22.75". Even after all the other boards I've made for myself since, this is still far and away my favorite. From the very beginning I felt like it was wired directly to my brain, and I bet I've got more water time on it than all my other boards put together. Everything from knee-high mush to overhead sucking beachbreak, it just owns the waves...

I pulled it off the rack a few weeks ago after having spent the summer playing with new boards, and it was like a revelation. So buttery-smooth, so boundlessly drivey, so highline-fast... That's the thing that always gets me after riding other boards and then going back to the keels, the sensation of no drag and silky-smoothness. I seriously love this board, if I had to give up my whole quiver and just keep one ride, this would be it.

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Shwuz and Rooster- the boards are fresh in and I haven't had a chance to ride it yet- Mick sent these other modified keels too.
Shwuz, that veneer work is beautiful- I'd hate to wax that board.

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Re: [consafos] Still feeling the keels...

Trying to contribute some shots, any tricks to posting from an Apple?

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Re: [tooltripper] Still feeling the keels...

you have to use firefox to post pics from a mac, not safari. you also need a photobucket or flicker account as with PC's

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Re: [LasOlas] Still feeling the keels...

5'10 w/ double foiled plywood keels, US Blanks colored foam.
Great thread guys, love the craftsmanship.
Many Mahalos to LasOlas for the help posting.
Aloha, Tripper

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Updated after HC and sanding


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Re: [Mikaale] Still feeling the keels...

nice fins !

did you make them ?

how deep are they ?

what length is the base ?

cheers

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Re: [apsmith] Still feeling the keels...

Here are my two Frye's with Geppy's: my 5'10" "BabyBlue" and my 6'9" Longfish "BigRed"... My wife snapped this shot of Skip and me when I went down to his shop to see my "surprise gifts"!












Jerry Ingham admiring his handy work on those difficult glass jobs. Blue is my favorite color, but this Salmon tint came out bitchin'!




The weekend after Clark closed his doors, I drove over to the back yard shack I was shaping in and grabbed my last two fish blanks (a 6'2"C and a 6'9"Y). I threw them in the car, drove them down to Skip's shop and asked him what I could do with them. He said, "Well, I could make two fish out of them!" He took 'em, wrote my name on them, and asked me what sizes I wanted. I wanted a 5'3" or a 5'5" or a 5'6" and he talked me in to a 5'10" and a 6'9". He took 'em in an moved 'em to the front of the line and said, I'll call you soon...

I ended up getting one on my birthday with some new Skippy shirts, a new cap, and a blue beenie from his private stash. The other one was on Christmas. They were both surprises from Skip and my Wife... then Jerry Ingham glassed 'em over at Javier's at XTR (however, they are poly..not epoxy). What a gift!!!! Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: [chipfins61] Still feeling the keels...

No, I didn't make them. I got 'em from Toru at the Surf Garage. He gets them from some where in California, but I don't recall where. I've had those for about 2 1/2 years because originally they were going on a 5'7" fish, but the guy changed his mind and said he wanted keels that were see through, and, could I inlay his logo to see from both sides. It was a wall-hanger for his business. So I copied them in volan cloth and did the inlay and I've had these sitting around since. The inlayed ones actually came out pretty nice.

On these the base is 6 1/2 inches and they are 5 inches deep. I liked them because of the cutaway aspect of the trailing edge - I thought they might work a little better here.

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Re: [Mikaale] Still feeling the keels...

Here's a better photo(i hope) of a keel fish I built almost 3 years ago. I rode it a lot this Fall. Geppies.

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Re: [rooster] Still feeling the keels...

Here's the deck. Mike

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And the bottome. I think I figured out how to make them bigger. Hope not too big. Mike

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